all in vanilla, Rocket launch or alien invasion? I also love the idea of a hybrid recon entrenchment tank. [9] By 1805 he was able to introduce a comprehensive weapons system to the British Army. using defence focused generals to buff the breakthrough on tanks instead of soft attack, That night fighter idea sounds really cool, could definitely be useful on strategic bombing and port strikes. A place to share content, ask questions and/or talk about the grand strategy game Hearts of Iron IV by Paradox Development Studio. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. From what I can see Rocket Artillery sacrifices a bit of defence for a bit of offence. You can do this with the 'research_on_icon_click' (more info) command. Poland has war goals against Poland to take Poland. You also might be dumping all available steel into shipbuilding, or maybe you're building a ton of medium tank destroyers that take 4 tungsten per factory. So I'm thinking over new tactics in my head right now. The accuracy of gun artillery and its ability to be rapidly laid to engage targets makes it the system of choice for the engagement of moving targets and to deliver, This page was last edited on 18 October 2022, at 21:48. 4 1 WesternMass 6 yr. ago That's why you need to stop by your friend Portugal. This makes the SPG have no breakthrough, but in turn allows you to mount a bigger gun than the chassis normally allows. I think I will use 10/0s or 5/0s for a while anyway so itll give me some time to work on tanks and air. Anti-air artillery has a very powerful air attack, allowing it to shoot down enemy aircraft. So, from what it sounds like, you want pure AA/AT divisions. A place to share content, ask questions and/or talk about the grand strategy game Hearts of Iron IV by Paradox Development Studio. This will make its combat width 20 which is optimal for early - mid game. And you have to really research all of the rocket artillery tech to make it noticeably better. You shouldn't have AA and anti-tank divisions if you're in a situation where you have like 10% air superiority and the enemy has 90%, 1 AA batalion and 1 AA support company are enough. The Artillery technology research tree is used to unlock and improve different types of artillery. It's a waste of research time, imo. meaning in a fair 1v1 scenario arty always outperformes rocket arty. Rocket launch or alien invasion? This is usually not practical with rocket artillery. So what else is different? :), Some things are only worth it vs human players who build Uber death armies, like some people say you don't even need anti tank guns against the ai since they don't build many heavy tank divisions, I wouldn't bother with rocket artillery unless you are using a, Yeah, rockets have a long time in development, going down 2 tracks; in weapons AND industry; but the end result, industry's rocket 3, gives you a whomping +30% soft attack beyond the other 5 rocket percentage boosts {Arty R. 2, 3, 4, Rocket 1, 2 .}. Maybe a slightly better fit for Infantry designed to hold the line. 4 Rocket Artillery Artillery research tree Artillery Back to Artillery research tree Normal artillery deals large amounts of soft damage, making them effective against infantry and lightly armored vehicles. Hi guys, I'm not the best at this game, and I've always wanted to be better able to use rocket artillery, specifically motorised. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Extremely large guns like the. The Congreve rockets are also famous for inspiring the lawyer Francis Scott Key to pen the words the "rockets' red glare" in what became the US National Anthem during the War of 1812. Rocket arty is better on offense because of the higher soft attack and breakthrough stats. Global Positioning and Inertial Navigation terminal guidance systems have been introduced. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Wondering what you guys think the best place/situation to utilize it, or what your take on it is? Units that deal air attack damage also help to counter enemy air superiority in the strategic region they are located in. They were often used at night to conceal their launching sites and increase their disruptiveness and psychological effectiveness. And what do you get? Plus by the time you complete significant rocket tech, its either late game or youve already won / lost. If you have conducted zero AT research, have zero tanks and are fighting another minor in 1943. They were particularly effective against cavalry and were hurled into the air, after lighting, or skimmed along the hard dry ground. Contents 1 Archetype 2 Type 2.1 Parent 2.2 Family 3 Variant 4 Designer 5 Statistics 5.1 Army values The United States Army built and deployed a small number of turret-mounted T34 Calliope and T40 Whizbang rocket artillery tanks (converted from M4 Sherman medium tanks) in France and Italy. The next technology step is another +3 to the artillery, and +4.5 to the rockets, for new totals of 30+9=39 compared to 30+4.5=34.5. They may be capable of very destructive strikes by delivering a large mass of explosives simultaneously, thus increasing the shock effect and giving the target less time to take cover. ago I find regular line artillery to be better 99% of the time. Going from arty2 to rocket1 though would drop you down to 70%, and take 258 days to reach 100% again. Fuel Usage: How much fuel a unit uses while it is operating. An example is: /ae 1000 artillery_equipment_1 - using this command would add 1000 Towed Artillery. Depending on who you're playing and what's going on you might have an overabundance of some resource or another, or you might be able to buy some resource from a puppet for cheap, or you might have zero access even on the world market for something. Hyder Ali's son, Tipu Sultan, continued to develop and expand the use of rocket weapons, reportedly increasing the number of rocket troops from 1,200 to a corps of 5,000. After the rockets were successfully used during Napoleon's defeat at the Battle of Waterloo, various countries were quick to adopt the weapon and establish special rocket brigades. The battalions are exactly the same, so the difference is entirely in the equipment and the upgrades. -Get's only realy "good" (see the second pro point) realy late into the game. Then medium AT might be useful. its good as a support though. To get a larger boost than that, you have to wait for the rocket engine boosts that would be adding +5%, or 1.9 each for a total of +5.7 soft attack on top of the 1.8 lead rockets have at top tier, for a total of 7.5 extra soft attack per battery. From Hearts of Iron 4 Wiki. This makes sense, I never play multiplayer so there could be use in some games albeit the cost of it. [citation needed], Congreve introduced a standardised formula for the making of gunpowder at Woolwich and introduced mechanical grinding mills to produce powder of uniform size and consistency. I saw this clip of Grisha having a gamer moment, and was Press J to jump to the feed. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Each level also adds +25% to the infantry Hard Attack. Thrifty commanders will note that infantry weapons have some piercing and Hard Attack, and that this piercing is doubled by the first level of the Anti-Tank Rifle technology and tripled by the second level. For more information, please see our I have begun finding cool ways to use mechanised units as well as flame tanks and light tanks, so that's cool, but I'd really like to use all the units the game offered, I am paying for them after all! The 'add_equipment' or 'ae' command can be used with these codes . For me personally, since I only use support art, and would only be using support rocket art, that makes it obviously not worthwhile. Top HOI4 infantry template would be the 7/2, 20 width one. Support Companies technology: Technologies that unlock and improve all types of support battalions: Engineers, Reconnaissance, Military Police, Maintenance, Field Hospital, Logistics and Signal companies. than regular artillery. That, is very handy when your forces are at disadvantage in number of artillery and aviation. I use rocket trucks with amtracs and not much else. The 'add_equipment' or 'ae' command can be used with these codes . [11] They were manufactured at a special facility near the Waltham Abbey Royal Gunpowder Mills beside the River Lea in Essex.[12]. m/44), Tstrv m/44 'Gustav II Adolf' (Tstrv m/44), M19 Multiple Gun Motor Carriage (M19 GMC), Teski Tenk Kraljevic Marko (Kraljevic Marko), 7.5 cm PaK 40 auf Fahrgestell Marder II (Marder II), Medium Tank Destroyer (M. Tank Destroyer), Panzerkampfwagen Tiger Ausf. 36), TA calibru 37mm model 1939 (Astra Rheinmetall 37mm), Canon de 75 modle 1897 (Canon de 75 mle 1897), 10.5 cm Leichte Feldhaubitze 18 (10.5 cm LeFH 18), Cannone da 75/27 modello 06 (Cannone da 75/27), Cannone da 149/40 modello 35 (Cannone da 149/40 m/35), 7,5 cm Gebirgskanone M. 15 (7,5 cm M. 15), 15 cm schwere Feldhaubitze M. 15 (15 cm schw. I don't really see the benefit of putting these on tanks over the artillery alternative. (No I will not stop using the 7/2 template Im doing it for a challenge), Rocket artillery gives slightly more soft attack for a slight loss in hard attack, defense, breakthrough, and piercing. A rocket carrying about one pound (~500 gm) of powder could travel almost 1,000 yards (~900 m). A place to share content, ask questions and/or talk about the grand strategy game Hearts of Iron IV by Paradox Development Studio. This page was last edited on 9 August 2022, at 02:46. This makes them better than standard artillery at attacking lightly armored vehicles, like motorized and mechanized infantry, but relatively poor against infantry (though they will still do a serviceable job). Maybe the USA? 9 [deleted] 6 yr. ago Majors have shitloads of tungsten well i'm not sure about Japan So, for example: ae 1000 motorized_rocket_equipment_1 The above command would add 1000 Motorized Rocket Artillery to your stockpile. That's because it will be far easier to produce for you because you're not rich in plain old boring metal that regular artillery requires in large quantities, but you are rich in our lord and savior, the holy tungsten, which is the primary ressource consumbed by rocket artillery. By the late nineteenth century, due to improvements in the power and range of conventional artillery, the use of military rockets declined; they were finally used on a small scale by both sides during the American Civil War. Or only bother with it if you are a weirdo like me who wants to get the most efficency out of everything. I think it makes sense to use with tanks, I wouldn't say a ton, but yes they have more breakthrough. All rights reserved. The Mysorean rockets of this period were innovative, chiefly because of the use of iron tubes that tightly packed the gunpowder propellant; this enabled higher thrust and longer range for the missile (up to 2 km range). (It has its own 3D sprite and gfx so it gotta be useful). Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. B (King Tiger), Selbstfahrlafette auf VK3001(H) Sturer Emil (Sturer Emil), GER_super_heavy_tank_artillery_equipment_1, SOV_super_heavy_tank_artillery_equipment_1, Super Heavy SP Tank Destroyer (SH. Thus a greater internal pressure was possible, with a resultant greater thrust of the propulsive jet. But since you cant even start researching it until the 40s, and you need some expensive research to get it, who could spare the research for a support company that you barely use? While these latter weapons were captured at Luzon and proved effective in subsequent testing, it is not clear that they were ever used against American troops, in contrast to the more common 20 and 40cm types, which clearly contributed to the 37,870 American casualties sustained at Luzon.[13]. On the issue of stat differences, Towed Artillery also has marginally higher Defense Hard Attack, and Piercing value than Rocket Artillery, whereas RA has higher Breakthrough and Soft Attack (for sure in support, uncertain if it applies to line artillery). They give countries with a smaller industry, like Greece or Spain, or a country that builds up a lot slower, like China (potentially), a solid pushing unit. [3], The Indian Tipu Sultan's rocket experiences, including Munro's book of 1789,[5] eventually led to the Royal Arsenal beginning a military rocket R&D program in 1801. Many thanks to whatever advice people have. An unconventional Sherman conversion was the turretless Kilshon ("Trident") that launched an AGM-45 Shrike anti-radiation missile. Support Equipment is an example of a type of equipment. Anti-tank artillery deals a lot of hard damage and has high piercing, making them excel in taking out vehicles on the ground. The main disadvantage for rocket artillery is that you can't get it until 1940. Several rocket cases were collected from Mysore and sent to Britain for analysis. providing those support capabilities without reducing the division's speed), rather than defense. Fire arrows were also used in multiple launch systems and transported via carts. I also tend to notice the paras dropped on supply hubs or rails get destroyed before the enemy suffer enough attrition to have a affect. Congreve designed several different warhead sizes from 3 to 24 pounds (1.4 to 10.9kg). Motorized rocket artillery uses 1 steel and 1 rubber but zero tungsten. The advantage of specialized tanks is speed (i.e. Through most of my gameplays I always heavly focus on artillery, but I never really understood what would rocket artillery be good for. 251/20), Canon de 76 mm modle 1943 (Canon de 76 mm mle 1943), Solothurn S-18/1000 (Solothurn S-18/1000), Bofors 37mm pansarvrnskanon (Bofors 37mm), 75mm pansarvrnskanon m/43 (75mm pvkan m/43), Bofors 37mm panservernkanon (Bofors 37mm), 47 mm Schneider-Concordia 1936 (47mm Schneider 36), Armata plot. The use of medieval rocket artillery was picked up by the invading Mongols and spread to the Ottoman Turks who in turn used them on the European battlefield. Equipment is the military hardware needed by units to operate and largely determines their stats. Arty2 costs 4 IC per gun, the same as rocket1. Redirect page. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Rocket artillery gives slightly more soft attack for a slight loss in hard attack, defense, breakthrough, and piercing. Below is a list of conversions for equipment names to equipment codes in Hearts of Iron IV. Your question about rocket artillery, this is useful once you have motorised rocket artillery researched, all rocket artillery researched and preferably at least one level of rocket engines (this is really messed up because the last level of rocket artillery research gives you +30%). than regular artillery. There are some other stat differences. [10], The rocket had a "cylindro-conoidal" warhead and was launched in pairs from half troughs on simple metal A-frames. A place to share content, ask questions and/or talk about the grand strategy game Hearts of Iron IV by Paradox Development Studio. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. While gun artillery shells are smaller than rockets, the gun itself must be very large to match the range of rockets. Quite heavily. Cookie Notice 7x: Infantry: 90 days: 2x: Artillery: 120 days: 1x: Support Artillery: IC Cost 644. The development was chiefly the work of Col. (later Sir) William Congreve, son of the Comptroller of the Royal Arsenal, Woolwich, London, who set on a vigorous research and development programme at the Arsenal's laboratory; after development work was complete, the rockets were manufactured in quantity further north, near Waltham Abbey, Essex. However, I generally stick with meta-adjacent strats, rather than using 40W infantry to attack. Paradox Forum. Another battle where these missiles were deployed was the Battle of Sultanpet Tope, where Colonel Arthur Wellesley, later famous as the First Duke of Wellington, was almost defeated by Tipu's Diwan Purnaiah. I rarely use it. You may first need to unlock equipment before using it. 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